Oblivion:Gwinas

Gwinas; (RefID: 00022B02)
Home City	Imperial City, Talos Plaza District
Location	The Tiber Septim Hotel
Other Information
Health	35 + (5+1.4)x(PC-5), PC=9-47
Magicka	100 + 1.5x(PC-5) (max=250)
Faction(s)	Tiber Septim Hotel (IC); Faction for First Edition NPCs; IC Citizens

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Quests: written by Krusty (in-game), checked by Helenaannevalentine

Schedule: written by Krusty (in-game), checked by SerCenKing (CS)

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Personal Inventory: written by Krusty (in-game), checked by Eshe (CS)

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Unique Dialogue: written by Legoless (CS), checked by SerCenKing (in-game)

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Gwinas

Gwinas is a Wood Elf noble staying at The Tiber Septim Hotel in the Imperial City's Talos Plaza District. He has a profound interest in the Commentaries on the Mysterium Xarxes. He has traveled all the way from Valenwood, in search of the four rare books. You will encounter him when you reach the related quest's stage 40, where he will be the book collector that has the third volume of The Mythic Dawn Commentaries on special order in the First Edition bookstore.

He will make his appearance in the bookstore (and in the game) the moment you have spoken to the owner, Phintias. After you have convinced him to hand over the book, he will go back to the hotel and stay there. He will sleep in his room every night between 10pm and 6am, and then wander around the hotel lobby all day long, only interrupted by his breakfast between 8am and 10am, lunch between 12pm and 2pm and dinner between 6pm and 8pm, which he will take seated in one of the chairs in the lobby.

He wields a steel dagger and wears a pair of gold trimmed shoes along with the rare red silk robes. He's also in possession of a random piece of jewelry, a note, and a considerable amount of gold.

Related Quests[edit]

The Path of Dawn: You must return to Baurus in the Imperial City to try to track down the stolen Amulet of Kings.

Quest-related Events[edit]

You will first hear about him from Phintias, when you tell him you need the last two volumes of the Mythic Dawn Commentaries:

"I happen to have a copy of Volume Three on hand, but I'm afraid it is a... special order. Already paid for by another customer. Sorry. Gwinas would be terribly disappointed if it was gone when he came to pick it up. So sorry I can't help you."

If you steal or manage to buy the book and speak to Phintias about it, he acknowledges Gwinas won't be too happy about it:

Commentaries, Volume Three

"I had a copy of Volume Three, but I am sorry to say that it was stolen recently. The thieves in the Market District get more brazen by the day! Gwinas will be terribly disappointed when he learns it is gone."

"I sold you my only copy of Volume Three. Gwinas will be terribly disappointed when he learns it is gone."

He will then expand on his first customer:

Gwinas

"I don't know him personally. But he was very eager to get his hands on Volume 3 of Camoran's "Commentaries." Came all the way from Valenwood! As a matter of fact, he's already late for his appointment to pick up the book. Feel free to wait for him if you want to speak to him yourself."

Greetings[edit]

If spoken to while on his way to pick up his book from Phintias, Gwinas will refuse to speak to you and will grow increasingly irate if you continue to greet him:

"I'm sorry, but I'm late for an appointment. I've no time to talk now." (-10 disposition towards player)

"You must not have heard me the first time. Good day!" (-10 disposition towards player)

"Are you deaf? Leave me alone!" (-1 disposition towards player on every subsequent attempt)

Conversation with Phintias[edit]

Once Gwinas arrives at First Edition, he will speak with Phintias:

Gwinas: "I'm here for my book. Mankar Camoran's "Commentaries," Volume Three."

If you have not obtained the book from Phintias, he will hand it over:

Phintias: "Ah, of course. Here you go. Keep us in mind for any future needs!"

Gwinas: "Thank you, thank you! I can't tell you how long I've been looking for this book!" (+20 disposition towards Phintias)

However, if you have purchased or stolen the book from Phintias, Gwinas will be less pleased and will leave the store empty-handed:

Phintias: "Ah, about that. You see ... I don't have it any more. Terribly sorry. A full refund, of course..."

Gwinas: "You can be sure I won't be back! I've never been treated so shabbily in all my life! Good day, sir!" (-20 disposition towards Phintias)

At this point, if you ask Phintias about the third volume he will give you a few responses depending on what happened:

Commentaries, Volume Three

"I had a copy of Volume Three, but Gwinas has already picked it up. So sorry."

"I had a copy of Volume Three, but I am sorry to say that it was stolen recently. Gwinas was terribly upset when he found out, poor fellow."

"I hope you're enjoying the copy I sold you. Gwinas was terribly upset when he found out, poor fellow."

This will then allow you to ask him about more information about his client:

Gwinas

"I've already said too much. I'm sure you understand. My customers expect absolute discretion."

"Well, just this once I don't suppose it would do any harm. Gwinas mentioned he was staying at the Tiber Septim Hotel." (Disposition is above 60)

Depending on whether you already have the book or not, he will continue:

"He was very upset when he found out I didn't have his book for him. I doubt he'll be in any mood to talk to you about it."

"Perhaps he'd be willing to sell you Volume 3. But I doubt it. He was very pleased with his purchase."

Commentaries, Volume Three[edit]

If Gwinas has obtained the book: "Have you been following me? Leave me alone! That book is mine!"

Player Response	Result
I want to buy it from you.	Reply A1
Just give me the book and I'll leave.	Reply A2
Tell me about the Mythic Dawn cult.	Reply A3

If you have obtained the book from Phintias: "I don't want to talk about it. I'm still very angry at Phintias. He promised me he would get one for me. I came all the way from Valenwood for it!"

Player Response	Result
Phintias sold me Volume 3.	Reply A6
I stole Volume 3 from Phintias.	Reply A7
I'm looking for Volume 4.	Reply A8

Once Gwinas has told you how to obtain Volume Four: "I told you, I'm done with those books. I'm sorry I ever got mixed up with those maniacs!"

Reply A1[edit]

"It isn't for sale. You'll have to find a copy somewhere else."

Player Response	Result
Tell me about the Mythic Dawn cult.	Reply A3
No. I need your copy.	Reply A4

Reply A2[edit]

"Are you... threatening me? You can't scare me! I'll call the guards if you don't leave at once!" (-10 disposition towards player)

Player Response	Result
No. You won't call the guards.	Reply A5

Reply A3[edit]

"The Mythic Dawn? Are you... I mean, I don't know what you're talking about! I don't know anything about any cult."

Player Response	Result
Don't play stupid.	Reply B1
You're in way over your head.	Reply B2

Reply A4[edit]

"I won't be bullied! I'm not some pathetic book-worm you can just push around! I have friends, you know!"

Player Response	Result
Friends ... in the Mythic Dawn?	Reply B3

Reply A5[edit]

"What do you mean? I'm an upstanding citizen! I have nothing to hide!"

Player Response	Result
Don't play stupid.	Reply B1
You're in way over your head.	Reply B2

Reply A6[edit]

"What? Phintias sold you my copy? This is outrageous! I must speak to Phintias at once. That book is mine!" (-10 disposition towards player)

Player Response	Result
Tell me about the Mythic Dawn cult.	Reply A3

Reply A7[edit]

"Outrageous! And you have the nerve to brag about it to my face? I have half a mind to call the guards and have you arrested!" (-10 disposition towards player)

Player Response	Result
No. You won't call the guards.	Reply A5

Reply A8[edit]

"What makes you think that I know how to get it? And why would I tell you even if I did know?"

Player Response	Result
The Mythic Dawn is dangerous.	Reply B5

Reply B3[edit]

"I never said anything about the Mythic Dawn. In fact, I don't even know what you're talking about."

Player Response	Result
Don't play stupid.	Reply B1
You're in way over your head.	Reply B2

Reply B5[edit]

"The Mythic Dawn? Are you... I mean, I don't know what you're talking about! I don't know anything about any cult."

Player Response	Result
Don't play stupid.	Reply B1
You're in way over your head.	Reply B2

Reply B1[edit]

"Very well. I can see you're familiar with Mankar Camoran's "Commentaries." I know that daedric cults are not quite the thing socially, but that's just foolish prejudice and superstition. For the adventurous, open-minded thinker, daedric worship holds many rewards."

Player Response	Result
They killed the Emperor, you fool!	Reply B4

Reply B2[edit]

If Gwinas has obtained the book: "I beg your pardon? You presume to tell me about daedric cults?"

If you already have the book: "Oh, really? You think the Mythic Dawn is the first daedric cult I've encountered?"

In either case, he will continue: "I'll have you know that I've visited the Shrine of Sheogorath during the Festival of the Mad! I've spoken with Hermaeus Mora beneath the full moons! I've..."

Player Response	Result
They killed the Emperor, you fool!	Reply B4

Reply B4[edit]

"What?! The Mythic Dawn were the ones...? You have to believe me! I truly had no idea. I mean, I knew they were a daedric cult. Mankar Camoran's views on Mehrunes Dagon are fascinating, revolutionary even... But to murder the Emperor... Mara preserve us!"

Player Response	Result
You'd better give me that book. (unless you stole it)	Reply C1
You'd better tell me what you know.	Reply C3

Reply C1[edit]

"Yes. Of course! I don't want anyone to think I had anything to do with their insane plots! Here. Volume 3 is yours. What you do with it is your business."

Player Response	Result
I need the fourth book as well.	Reply C2

Reply C3[edit]

"Yes. Of course! Anything to help. I really know very little. They contacted me. I suppose they learned that I was looking for the third and fourth volumes. I've never actually met any of them, I swear!"

Player Response	Result
I need the fourth book as well.	Reply C2

Reply C2[edit]

"You can only get Volume 4 directly from a member of the Mythic Dawn. I had set up a meeting with the Sponsor, as he called himself. Here, take this note they gave me. It tells you where to go. I don't want anything else to do with the Mythic Dawn."

He will then hand over the Note to Gwinas and the quest will be updated.

Notes[edit]

Gwinas has a line about the book if spoken to prior to his arrival at First Edition: "I'm sorry, do I know you? I have a copy waiting for me at a bookstore, but it is not for sale. I've waited a long time to get that book." However, as his greeting always end the conversation, you will never be able to hear it.
Gwinas has also some dialogue that could only be heard in the spectator section of the Chorrol Arena, but since this location was cut from the final game it remains unused: "Why do I come to the Arena? Honestly? I love the way the combatants move. It's like an... an erotic dance. The bodies, the sweat, the... oh. I, um..."