User talk:Jak Atackka/Archive2

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Thank you!

I just noticed you've been helping out with patrolling some of the older edits. Thank you! I'm not going to have a lot of time tomorrow and there are a lot of edits on March 5 that're close to falling off our list, so if you (or anyone else reading this) can patrol some of them, that'd be great! And just to make it incredibly easy for people reading this: convenience link. ;) Thanks in advance for anything you're able to do! – Robin Hood↝talk 08:44, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Looks like I got to most of them before you did, but you managed to squeeze a few in just as I was wrapping up, so thanks again. That's the big hurdle out of the way. As of last night, there were still 70-some edits to patrol from March 5 on the one day where I knew I wasn't going to have as much time as usual (cuz my Mom's visiting from out of town). I don't know why everyone edited that day (or didn't patrol?) but that was our last big day of patrolling for a while. There's another one coming March 14 18, but all the other days are so small, I think we'll have caught up quite a bit by the time we hit that and it won't be in any danger of disappearing, even if we split it over two days.

Off-topic, I find it funny how often I see signature fixes and other trivial edits that slip through to the back end unpatrolled. Hopefully there'll be a lot less of that once we're fully caught up and it's a little less chaotic. The end is in sight, though...only about 1000 unpatrolled edits to go, over and above whatever's coming in every day. – Robin Hood↝talk 06:32, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Yep, I'm going to help chop away at this horrible back log. I'll start hacking away at March 18th and work my way down. Looks like this is going to be a late night. And yes, I do find that kind of funny. At least it means in actuality we only have about 900 edits...

On a side note, I've learned to dread certain pages, specifically anything that has to do with main characters, main quests, cities, and skills. I've learned to like content edits, because they are usually a quick yes or no type of deal, and 400 hours of Skyrim goes a long way towards answering that question. :P • JA^Talk 06:37, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Gah! EC'd, and I'm responding to something it looks like you removed! Oh well, here goes anyway.... LOL, yeah, you patrolled a lot, but I was looking at the stuff from the 5th, specifically. And yeah, I meant to say the 18th, above...obviously you clued in. I was looking at the Excel row number instead of the date. D'oh!

Oh, and looking at what you patrolled out of what I left over, you do remember you're not supposed to patrol questions unless you can answer them, right? (Or they're unlikely to ever be answered.) Although, when they're about to fall off the patrolling queue anyway, it probably makes very little difference. – Robin Hood↝talk 06:54, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I do know that, and I wasn't entirely sure whether to patrol it or not, but yeah, as you guessed, I was going by the idea that they'll just fall off the patrol queue in a couple of days anyways. To be honest, I've been looking more at whether or not they are signing their posts, but I'll try to answer the questions more if I can. • JA^Talk 06:59, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Radiant

Hey, can you hold off on adding the radiant options? I'm actually going through systematically from a list I got from RH's bot. I want to finish that before anything else is done. If you want, you can hop onto the IRC and I can let you know what needs to be done. But until, please don't add anymore. Thanks, JA. elliot (talk) 06:03, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Sure thing. I saw you doing it, so I figured I'd jump in, but if you've got it under control then I'll leave you to it. • JA^Talk 06:05, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Cookie!

You have been given a cookie! Your dedication and diligence to the wiki has not gone unnoticed. A user has seen the progress you've made, and has given you a cookie because of it. Good work! The user had the following to say: A tasty treat for an incredible effort with the tons of dialogue on the Skyrim:Guard page. Keep up the good work! --Krusty 22:02, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Cool, thanks! • JA^Talk 22:38, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Neat!

Love the new User page style! Oh, and I think it's probably time to get rid of the "Ha, I wish" up in the top right. ;) – Robin Hood↝talk 05:53, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! My talk page is finally long enough that I can archive it, so that message will be gone momentarily. • JA^Talk 05:54, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I told you this in IRC, but what you do with this confusing formatting stuff is an art. Looks great! ES^{Question?•Email•Contribs} 06:37, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! • JA^Talk 07:01, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

You may want to consider adding __NONEWSECTIONLINK__ to encourage people not to add a new section to the page and completely bypass your table formatting like I just did. It's a little less intuitive for people who haven't run across that before, though, and are wondering why on earth your page doesn't have a new section (+) link at the top. Just thought I'd mention it exists, in case you weren't aware of it and wanted to put one in. – Robin Hood↝talk 07:10, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Sure, thanks for pointing that out. Just now I was trying to figure out how to make sure the text just below always stays at the bottom of the page. Any suggestions? • JA^Talk 07:13, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Huh, that tag doesn't work. • JA^Talk 07:15, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

So I see. Just double-checked and they introduced it in 1.15. Wait for the wiki upgrade, whenever we get around to that. :) The only other trick I've seen is some people leave the closing tags off altogether. That doesn't always work, though, and I've seen it do spectacular things to the formatting of not only your talk page, but all the tabs and menus and such. :) You can give it a try—it works quite well in many cases—but don't be surprised if something horrible happens. I think tables are actually safe to leave open and divs are the ones that cause problems, but don't quote me on that. – Robin Hood↝talk 07:18, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit conflict! Anyways, yeah, I just discovered that I don't need to close the tags at the bottom. Thus, the "+" button should still work, but let me check to make sure. • JA^Talk 07:21, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Sweet, everything still works! Okay, not going to worry about it any more. • JA^Talk 07:22, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Skyrim:Containment

Hey Jak, could you take a look at this comment? I figured since you're the one that added it in the first place, you might be able to help. If you can answer, you can go ahead and patrol the question too ;). Thanks! eshe^talk 17:15, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Got it, thanks! • JA^Talk 21:41, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Cookie!

You have been given a cookie! Your dedication and diligence to the wiki has not gone unnoticed. A user has seen the progress you've made, and has given you a cookie because of it. Good work! The user had the following to say: Nothing seems better (or more deserving) than a crunchy treat when you have just invented a way to make an awful lot of pages look better. Excellent work! --Krusty 00:12, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, and glad I could help! • JA^Talk 00:23, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Page Icon vs. TopIcon

Just to let you know, the id parameter for Page Icon is indeed in use. It's currently being used to ensure that the featured star doesn't overlap with anything else (see this change). I'd like to look into other ways around this issue, but for now, leave it in if you merge the two...I'll experiment and see if there are other options later. Or maybe elliot has some ideas? I think he's worked with some elements of CSS I don't have much experience with, so he might have some ideas right off the top of his head. – Robin Hood↝talk 19:57, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I updated {{Page Icon}} and did everything else. I tested and it still works when {{Protection}} and {{Featured article/image}} are used on the same page. As for the "id" parameter, I'm sure there are other workarounds, but the current solution is fine. I suppose you could use #save and #load to get the "id"s from the pages, but I imagine that is more server-intensive than using a handful of lines in the .css and .js files which are already being used. • JA^Talk 18:10, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Excellent work! I've just taken your concept and expanded on it a little using Metatemplate so that the icons won't overlap even if you have Javascript disabled. There are still a couple of tweaks to be made to account for right vs. left and the possibility of both left and right (which we won't want to interfere with one another), but you can see the basic concept in my sandboxes: Tet and Youd. It takes advantage of a Metatemplate feature that we're under-using currently: #return.

Edit: The only remaining issue is getting the Edit Section 0 code to work correctly with the changes. It looks like the code to deal with it is already there - it just needs the "pageicon" class put back in to detect where to put it. That may not be easy, but I think we can adapt the template to deal with it properly. – Robin Hood↝talk 21:52, 2 May 2012 (UTC); Edit: 22:32, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Nice job! Looking through the code, I don't see any obvious solutions. I'm going to copy it to my sandboxes and experiment with it. What exactly is this Edit Section 0 bug? Never mind, I see it. • JA^Talk 00:16, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Lurlock just brought something up that we'll need to take a look at (though I'm not sure if he actually meant to <g>). Have a look at the icon on Battlehorn Castle. That's going to need fixing...the size is right, but it's shifted down by about 10 pixels. It looks like that's the topindent coming into play...you've set it to -23 where it used to be -34. I'm not sure if there was a reason for that, so I'm leaving it in your hands. :) – Robin Hood↝talk 07:00, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Fixed! I initially had it set to -34, because with most icons it seemed to be the same, but the featured star and protection icons are all indented by -23 instead. Since they represent 90% of all Page Icons, I just went with that. If this becomes a problem, I can easily change it to default to -34 and then set the templates to use -23. • JA^Talk 16:27, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

It looks like Daveh is going to break our template with the Mediawiki upgrade, because according to MediaWiki the Icon extension isn't compatible with any version past 1.6.1. This will also break {{TrainerIcon}}. However, I think this can be easily fixed, since I'm now quite a bit more experienced with HTML and can use attributes to add the rest of the functionality. • JA^Talk 16:31, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

(←) Actually, the fix is stupendously easy because they fixed the last remaining issue (incorrect hover text) in 1.15. All #icon calls will be replaceable by [[File:name|size|hover text|link=link]]. – Robin Hood↝talk 22:58, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Trap v. Puzzle

Category:Skyrim-Traps-Totem Images Wouldn't those be considered puzzles? I can understand both arguments, but I figured I would ask for your opinion since you took the initiative to make the category. Thanks! elliot (talk) 05:01, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

The phrase "Totem" was used the most on the relevant page, so I just went for that one, but I agree that "Puzzle" makes more sense. I have a spare 20 minutes, so I can go through and change it if we want to. • JA^Talk 05:07, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, go ahead. You might want to add them to these as well. Thanks. elliot (talk) 05:15, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

I was suggesting that the categories be changed to Category:Skyrim-Puzzles. :) elliot (talk) 05:19, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Crap. Be right back :P • JA^Talk 05:22, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Moving Pages

When you move a file or page, make sure to check what links there. Unless you removed it, it should be linked in your toolbox on the sidebar. You just broke images on a page on the sidebar (as in, a page linked from every page of the site) for a bit over ten minutes. I can't stress this enough, if you don't check what's linking there, you shouldn't move the page at all. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 16:17, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

My bad, sorry about that. This is the first time I've ever moved a page. I went through the files and categories again, and now I'm sure that none of them are used on the site anywhere. I have one question - how do you suppress a redirect when you are moving a page? Or is that an admin-specific feature, because only admins can delete pages? • JA^Talk 16:21, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

You can't, it's an administrator-only thing. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 16:33, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

While we've changed it here, by default, not even Admins can suppress a redirect, only bots. The idea being that bots could be moving hundreds of similar pages where the redirect is unquestionably unnecessary, whereas other editors, even Admins, are unlikely to be doing so on that big of a scale. – Robin Hood↝talk 22:10, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Dragon Claws

I know it's been a while, but can you double check the Diamond Claw, it's just that as you can see, you confirmed these two claws having the same combination, which is unusual. I have just acquired the Ebony Claw and can confirm it is correct.

Claw	Sequence	Nordic Ruin
Diamond Dragon Claw	Fox—Moth—Dragon	Skuldafn
Ebony Dragon Claw	Fox—Moth—Dragon	Korvanjund

The Silencer has spoken^Talk 22:22, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Ack!

*sprays Talk Header with bleach, wipes it down thoroughly*

Eh, don't worry about it—it does look better ;). eshe^talk 23:20, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Haha, that's good - I know I wouldn't want anyone screwing with my user page either, but those little details send me into OCD mode, and then I have to fix it :D • JA^Talk 23:26, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Geek Point!

You have been given a Geek Point! Your dedication and devotion to maintaining the reputation of Geeks worldwide has been recognized! A user has given you a Geek Point because of it. Congratulations! The user had the following to say: Great job on removing the aligns from the various templates! I didn't check them all, but the ones I did were flawless. – Robin Hood↝talk 05:42, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Haha, that's awesome, thanks for the geek point! • JA^Talk 05:51, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Siggy

I like your timestamp sig, and was wanting to do my own in Regular Dragonscript, how exactly did you get that font on it? Ziguildmaster 20:19, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

This is the code for my signature:

[[User:Jak Atackka|<span title="Jak Atackka" style="line-height:1.0; font-size:16px; font-family:DragonscriptRegular; color:#4faf4f;">JA</span>]][[User talk:Jak Atackka|<sup><span style="color:black;">Talk</span></sup>]]

The important stuff is within the <span> tags. There are a few parts to it - I'll try to walk you through it:

• [[User:Jak Atackka| - The start of a normal link.
• <span - The beginning of the <span> tag.
• title="Jak Atackka" - Makes it so when you hover your mouse over the link, it says "Jak Atackka".
• style=" - The beginning of the CSS style that's used. You don't really need to know how it works - just remember to use it!
• line-height:1.0; font-size:16px; - Two things to make sure that the font is the right size and doesn't take up half the page or something ridiculous.
• font-family:DragonscriptRegular; - The part that actually changes the font to Dragon script. You can use just about any font you want to, but be aware that not everyone has all the same fonts (although you should be safe with things like Arial and Times New Roman. DragonscriptRegular is actually saved on the website, so you don't have to worry about whether or not it'll display correctly.
• color:#4faf4f; - The font's color. I chose this one out manually. You can use any hexadecimal number (like #0000FF) or a named color (look here for a full list).
• " - The end of the style="... part. Don't forget it!
• > - The end of the <span tag. Again, don't forget it!
• JA - What to actually display as formatted Dragon script. I just chose my initials for my signature, to keep it short.
• </span> - Closing the span tag.
• ]] - The end of the link.

The same thing is repeated for the part that links to my talk page. The only difference there is that there are also <sup></sup> tags. These make it ^superscript.

...And that's about all there is to it! Don't worry, it makes a whole lot more sense the more you use it. • JA^Talk 22:28, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

"Why is it commented out?"

Lore:Magic. The References section is commented out because the cleanup tag at the top of the page mentions a need for references to be added, and the books are there as suggestions for those references. Basically, someone said "I'm not going to dig through these books, but here's a start for anyone who wants to do it". Vely^{►Talk►Email} 20:14, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I see now. Thanks for the explanation. • JA^Talk 20:16, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Service Icon

I notice that, at some point, you added a bunch of alternative options for the trainer level (basic, common, etc.). Are those just meant as alternatives for convenience or is there somewhere they're used? I'm just wondering whether things like hover text and such need to be adjusted as well. Also, if they're never used, we may want to take them back out, as it might be more confusing than convenient. (Which probably goes just as well for some of the service options I added, in truth.) – Robin Hood↝talk 04:34, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I added those because Oblivion uses "Basic", "Advanced", and "Master", whereas Skyrim uses "Common", "Expert", and "Master". Basically, it was for backwards compatibility, in case someone mixed up the terminology. However, then we'd need to have the hover text display the appropriate name for the namespace, which is a bit more overhead (which would actually be very simple to implement). However, that functionality could be easily removed, if it made sense to. Are we going to implement Service Icon in other namespaces at some point or another? If not, then removing that functionality makes more sense. • JA^Talk 04:39, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and a quick unrelated question: Where do you find the various resistances and weaknesses of creatures and such? For example, Snow Bears have a 50% frost resistance, and although that sounds right I don't know where to find that in the CSList. • JA^Talk 04:40, 28 May 2012 (UTC) Nevermind, figured it out :)

Ah, I hadn't really clued into the wording difference yet. In that case, yeah, I'll make appropriate changes tomorrow. And yes, we'll be adding Service Icon to Oblivion/Shivering space shortly, as you may have noticed in my Sandbox. There's nothing being used in Morrowind space (other than a couple of borrowed Oblivion icons in a few places), but if there are appropriate icons, there's no reason we couldn't add them at some point in the future. I haven't played Morrowind much, and it's been a really long time, so I don't even remember how services work there. – Robin Hood↝talk 05:32, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

You've Been Given a Troll Point!

Wait. I mean that in only the most positive way. I couldn't BEAR not to acknowledge your work on the animals /monsters table. A monstrous contribution. Much better than it was Falmery. I think I speak for Chaurus when I say, Way to goat! --JR^{Talk E-mail} 10:29, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

LLOL, JR! But, I agree! The pages look awesome! They have needed these updates for a LONG time, and you put in a lot of time and work on them. WTG! ABCface^◥ 12:56, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Haha, goat to see you're happy with it! It was a mammoth of a task, but I too couldn't bear to leave it in its sorry state. When ABCface pointed out the article, I sprigganed into action and rabbit-ly wisp'd that page right off its feet. (Sorry for the terrible puns; I couldn't resist!) • JA^Talk 17:38, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

<facepalm> Too many bad puns :p Snowmane^{(talk•email)} 17:48, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

SRQRP Categories

Good idea with the SRQRP categories. Just in case you're looking at the OBNPCRP categories, though, I deliberately opted to use spaced names after the "Skyrim-SRQRP-" because I find that a lot easier to read, and the dashes, to me, should separate logical groupings, not every word. If there were a parent "Objectives", then "Objectives-Checked" and "Objectives-Unchecked (or Not-Checked)" might make sense, but since there isn't, it's much more intuitive to use "Objectives Checked" and "Objectives Not Checked". Anyway, just wanted to mention that in case you start thinking maybe you should add dashes in there...please don't! :P – Robin Hood↝talk 03:47, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry, I noticed that. The dashed categories, although more efficient, are also hard to read and not very user-friendly IMO. Also, I changed the "Checked Quests" and "Unchecked Quests" categories to "Walkthroughs Checked" and "Walkthroughs Not Checked", since those seemed more logical, given the new parameters. • JA^Talk 04:03, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

WrittenBy

Hey Jak - before you continue, could you take a look at this thread, especially the newest post? Thanks! --Krusty 22:41, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Ah, okay. That explains a lot. I'll go ahead and fix what I did. • JA^Talk 22:43, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Not a problem. I honestly thought I'd be finished by now, but I still have 40-50 pages to read through. As for the DB contract quests, they all lack the three dialogue options you can give the victims (with the exception of Kill Beitild which Kiz made yesterday), and that was the main reason I didn't add any authors; not even to my own Narfi page. ;) If you want to add the info, just go ahead, and they will be ready to move on in the process. :) --Krusty 22:53, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

That explains why it turned red. You've opened my eyes, perhaps I should use them. The Silencer has spoken^Talk 14:37, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Haha, sure thing. That was a rather tricky one, and it looks like JR glanced over it as well, so you're not alone. I only saw it because I was looking for it. Oh, and thanks for adding the black line below this section. • JA^Talk 14:44, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Help me

I think there is something wrong with the formatting on this page User:The Silencer/DTR because it's displaying a noinclude tag at the top of my talk page. For reference it is a ripoff of User:RobinHood70/MOTD, but per my lack of comprehension on the subject I can't see what's wrong. I added a bit at the top but it didn't seem to change anything. Consider this permission to muck about with both my pages (and any other that might be the real cause). The Silencer has spoken^Talk 00:11, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Really? I don't see it. I think one of your changes fixed it, and you were just seeing a cached version of your talk page. And BTW, don't worry about it, 90% of programming is "borrowing" someone else's work and tweaking it to fit your needs :) • JA^Talk 03:06, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I did that and checked it last night and it was still there, but it's gone now. Sorry for bothering you. The Silencer has spoken^Talk 12:19, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Legoless admin privileges

Sorry that you were offended by my remark but if you take a closer look at my comment you will undoubtedly see that I said "I am not sure if..." and did not present it as a fact ;) I sincerely hope this great page hasn't yet become a totalitarian regime in which admins are taboo for criticism - even if one is a friend of yours ;) --Shimenawa 21:01, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Don't try to pull a fast one. In that context, it clearly constituted a personal attack, even if you didn't strictly establish it as a fact. Also, criticizing a person's argument is acceptable - criticizing a person is not. This is outlined in our Policies and Guidelines, and as others have stated personal attacks are grounds for an immediate block. • JA^Talk 21:06, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

To be honest it seems you are the one who's attacking me right now. It's your right to be displeased with my notion just as it is my right to question the suitability of an admin for his position (to quote the Etiquette: "Personal attacks include everything from the obvious vandalism and name-calling to ill-intentioned sarcasm." I've done none of that). If I talk in a derogatory way, present not verifiable statements about other users as a fact or outright insult someone you have every good reason to report me. But this is not a Communist Party and no one on this site is above critique - and be assured: If the host himself would behave in a questionable manner I would address him as well. --Shimenawa 21:30, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Did you not click the second link? If you missed it, it's here. You called an editor "a pretty obstinate self-righteous admin". If that isn't a personal attack, then I don't know what one is.

Also, the comparison to the Communist party is not appreciated. This reminds me of Godwin's Law. • JA^Talk 21:35, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

You highlighted the wrong part me thinks ;) "...and in this case I APPROXIMATE THE ILLATION that I am dealing with a pretty obstinate admin here" - BUT I admit that it borders on an offense therefore let me apologize ;) Though it is indeed my opinion it has no business on UESP. I was just frustrated that someone who earned the right to be an admin behaves in such an inapproachable way. This is about the community after all and he should be glad we all care enough about the Elder Scrolls to be willing to sacrifice our spare time for the improvement of the site. --Shimenawa 21:48, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Dumner returning to morrowind

i think i found a source of dumner returing to rebuild one of the dumner the female mentions the dumner returend after the read year leaving winterhold. which means that posible many are returing to rebuild their ancestreal homeland --MadokaOda 03:45, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Cool. Who says this? • JA^Talk 03:47, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

her name is Brelyna Maryon, she mentions many of her kind returned to morrowind following the red year and argonian invasion--MadokaOda 17:49, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

...Maps...

You have been given a plateful of cookies! I think I love you. —Legoless 16:59, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Haha, thanks! This'll give me something to eat while I work on the Stormhold images and Dawnstar maps. Now for the fun part of connecting all of them! • JA^Talk 18:31, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

found a hidden-ish ledge in Aftland Glacial Ruins....

... not sure if its been found, previously reported, or is generally already known. I saw a trio of mechanical pillars that if you jump onto them you can reach a ledge. There were some potions and dwarven ingots on a shelf and two chests. There was an Amulet of Julianos in one and an Amulet of Akatosh in the other, amongst a few other things. Not altogether a major find, but i was thrilled that i uncovered the ledge at all. Is this something people would want added to a page? I never thought to looking at the pillars as a "staircase" before. And how does one tell if is a randomly generated loot, or permanant??

--Janek

68.84.62.140 18:43, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

sorry to butt in Jak but i think that should definitely be aded to the article if it isn't already. RIM 18:54, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Not a problem RIM. I agree, this belongs on the place article, especially if you can consistently find Amulets of the Gods there, because fixed locations for them are hard to find. As for checking whether it's random or permanent, the easiest way is to have someone else go through, or to go through yourself after the cell has respawned (wait 30 in-game days +24 hours, to be safe) and see if you get the same loot. One could also check through the CK, but I don't have it because I play on the 360. • JA^Talk 19:11, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

hey can you be my mentor

I'm a serious tea gamer but ive only just started editing so could you be my mentor ill tell you about some weird oblivion stuff. Send Awesomebeast222 a friend request to speak to me — Unsigned comment by 173.55.184.189 (talk) at 02:50 on 24 June 2012

Sorry, but as you can see on my user page, I'm semi-active right now, and won't be of much help. You caught me at a bad time. I should be back in a couple of weeks, but I imagine you want a mentor a bit sooner. One tip, though - you should probably create an account, because it would make mentoring you a lot easier. Plus, your ISP (internet service provider) could change your IP address — mine does about once a week, which is rather annoying. • JA^Talk 03:00, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Ill wait in fact I wont be on the wiki for a while either because I have a summer job to hoe my naborhood with my 2 friends so I can wait cause ill hardly be on here either and by the way I'm in the middle of making a new account oh and do you have xbox live Whiteninja aka sarah 04:13, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry. I do have a 360, but I have satellite internet, which means no Live for me :( • JA^Talk 04:31, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

the elder scrolls 6

What do you think the elder scrolls 6 will be im hoping for elsweyr or black marsh Whiteninja aka sarah 02:40, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Template Assistance

How do you use the  [sic] on non-talk pages because when I attempt to do so it says: [[[UESPWiki:Spelling#Quotes|sic]]] is this intended or not? 2dum2live 03:16, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Type {{sic|incorrect|correct}}, which comes out like this: incorrect [sic]. Jut typing {{sic}} only leaves  [sic], as you mentioned. • JA^Talk 06:50, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

I tried that on Frost Breath and it gave me the identical message or just said sic beside the word. 2dum2live 12:19, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

2dum2live: It's not you, that should have worked. I don't know what's wrong exactly, but I'm going over the page and template now to see if I can figure it out. It works if you add a nolink, but in theory, that shouldn't be necessary. I'll post more when I figure out what's going on. – Robin Hood↝talk 14:45, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I've found the problem. It seems to be a bug in one of the template extensions we're using. The only apparent workaround that'll work is adding the nolink parameter.

For the templaters, the problem is that #save is actually modifying the {{{quote}}} parameter. I tried bypassing the problem by moving the #save to the bottom of the template, but as I feared, the #loaded value (e.g., on Dragon Shouts) suffers the same problem. I'll post a bug report on Nephele's talk page after I update what I just did, since it didn't work out. – Robin Hood↝talk 15:05, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Okay thanks for explaining it so now I can use that for my edits.:) --2dum2live 19:14, 30 June 2012 (UTC)