Morrowind talk:Dagoth Gilvoth

Can his death weaken a (loaded) Dagoth Ur?

For six other Ash Vampires, there is a note that says:

However, scripts cannot affect actors that haven't yet loaded, so this will only trigger if you visit Dagoth Ur before killing Dagoth XXX.

• This bug is fixed in OpenMW. However, since killing all six Ash Vampires would...

For Dagoth Gilvoth, however, the note simply says:

However, extensive testing in the community suggests that this has no effect on your final battle with Dagoth Ur.

Would it be correct to assume the following?:

• For six ash vamps, their death can weaken a loaded / visited Dagoth Ur, and
• Dagoth Gilvoth is the seventh ash vamp for whom such an approach still does not work.

Or is a copy-pasted error? That is, killing Dagoth Gilvoth will also weaken Dagoth Ur and the OpenMW note should have said either "killing six Ash Vampires" or "killing all seven Ash Vampires". Salamangkero (talk) 17:23, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

It's an error/oversight. Dagoth Gilvoth has the same ashvampire script attached to him as the other six ash vampires (this is the script which handles the "weakening" of Dagoth Ur when the ash vampire is killed), so killing him should have the same effect as killing any of the other six. However, since Dagoth Ur (dagoth_ur_1) has only 300 health and killing an ash vampire subtracts 50 health, it only requires six ash vampires to be killed to kill Dagoth Ur. I'll leave it up to you how you want to reword the note to reflect this. — Wolfborn^(Howl) 19:03, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Since the note is of moderate length, I just created {{MW Ash Vampire Note}} to reduce copy-paste errors like this. Salamangkero (talk) 06:58, 24 July 2023 (UTC)